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		<title>By: StanleyRumm</title>
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		<dc:creator>StanleyRumm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ll have to agree to disagree there Eric for the reasons I put earlier. I can&#039;t say I care what the point of the movie is/was. I don&#039;t like it. &lt;br&gt;...Beside the points I raised, I also didn&#039;t like it because basically it&#039;s a 3+hour two-act, uninteresting play. Very well made for all that. Cinematography, starkness and vibrant bleak sound throughout are amazing. I still didn&#039;t like the film overall.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve given it enough of my time. I realise this is an untrendy and almost unallowable viewpoint, but I&#039;ve given my reasons at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#39;ll have to agree to disagree there Eric for the reasons I put earlier. I can&#39;t say I care what the point of the movie is/was. I don&#39;t like it. <br />&#8230;Beside the points I raised, I also didn&#39;t like it because basically it&#39;s a 3+hour two-act, uninteresting play. Very well made for all that. Cinematography, starkness and vibrant bleak sound throughout are amazing. I still didn&#39;t like the film overall.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve given it enough of my time. I realise this is an untrendy and almost unallowable viewpoint, but I&#39;ve given my reasons at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But &quot;There Will Be Blood&quot; is so much more than just a portrait of a vacuous man.  It&#039;s an intimate and compelling study of the real foundations of America -- not freedom and tolerance, but capitalism and religion.  To discount the film based on the unlikability of the main character is a tragic mistake --  because that&#039;s the whole point!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But &#8220;There Will Be Blood&#8221; is so much more than just a portrait of a vacuous man.  It&#39;s an intimate and compelling study of the real foundations of America &#8212; not freedom and tolerance, but capitalism and religion.  To discount the film based on the unlikability of the main character is a tragic mistake &#8212;  because that&#39;s the whole point!</p>
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		<title>By: StanleyRumm</title>
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		<dc:creator>StanleyRumm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I missed this post until now... I agree that it&#039;s possible to watch a film without liking the protagonists. I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d toss Godfather II in such a boat (for me at least) because dash it all I think I like Michael despite all that goes on. It&#039;s a tribute to the quality of the film that it can portray a person committing such vile acts and still leave the viewer conflicted -or at least with much to think about re: how they relate to you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is true I&#039;ve never been as crazy for Raging Bull as the world and its lobster seem to be, but it&#039;s so long since I saw it (though I did try it 3+ times)  I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d hold the same view now -or even what those views were. I shoulda writ them down I know.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are exceptions to the &quot;irrelevant to dislike a movie because the main character is unlikeable&quot; though. For instance I&#039;ve decided a while back that I have absolutely ZERO interest in watching another &quot;Serial Killer&quot; type movie. I think these characters have been played-out and overexposed already in &quot;popular&quot; media. It&#039;s nigh-on hero worship at this stage. Whether the movie is &quot;worshipping&quot; the killer or not, it&#039;s invariably living on the &quot;strength&quot; and power of these acts (there are exceptions to this too -Zodiac and Memories of Murder being two notables).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s all too easy to show such downbeat, soul-sucking, nihilistic acts &amp; protagonists. It&#039;s virtually impossible to &quot;diss&quot; them without coming across as a squeamish schoolgirl. We&#039;re encouraged to &quot;FACE THE EVIL HEAD ON&quot;. Not to do so is to remain ignorant.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well, I don&#039;t agree with that. I also have no qualms about switching the channel when the dying babies of Africa (or any other country) are shown in all their &#039;glory&#039; -not because I don&#039;t care, but because it&#039;s too damn upsetting. And me being upset makes zero difference to the problem.  ...but I know if it was my loved-one lying dead on the side of the road I&#039;d be outraged at the idea of it being shown on TV (much like it isn&#039;t done to show for instance the identifiable body of a US soldier in this manner).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;OK, I&#039;m drifting off the point slightly there, but still, this is my objection to &#039;Serial Killer&#039; type movies and I found There Will Be Blood to be nothing other than the portrait of a vacuous man who shares much of these same qualities. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!&quot; ...well part of the power such people gain (and strive for) is provided simply BY the looking. &lt;br&gt;I am as Time. I have no time for such petty individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I missed this post until now&#8230; I agree that it&#39;s possible to watch a film without liking the protagonists. I&#39;m not sure I&#39;d toss Godfather II in such a boat (for me at least) because dash it all I think I like Michael despite all that goes on. It&#39;s a tribute to the quality of the film that it can portray a person committing such vile acts and still leave the viewer conflicted -or at least with much to think about re: how they relate to you.</p>
<p>It is true I&#39;ve never been as crazy for Raging Bull as the world and its lobster seem to be, but it&#39;s so long since I saw it (though I did try it 3+ times)  I&#39;m not sure I&#39;d hold the same view now -or even what those views were. I shoulda writ them down I know.</p>
<p>There are exceptions to the &#8220;irrelevant to dislike a movie because the main character is unlikeable&#8221; though. For instance I&#39;ve decided a while back that I have absolutely ZERO interest in watching another &#8220;Serial Killer&#8221; type movie. I think these characters have been played-out and overexposed already in &#8220;popular&#8221; media. It&#39;s nigh-on hero worship at this stage. Whether the movie is &#8220;worshipping&#8221; the killer or not, it&#39;s invariably living on the &#8220;strength&#8221; and power of these acts (there are exceptions to this too -Zodiac and Memories of Murder being two notables).</p>
<p>It&#39;s all too easy to show such downbeat, soul-sucking, nihilistic acts &#038; protagonists. It&#39;s virtually impossible to &#8220;diss&#8221; them without coming across as a squeamish schoolgirl. We&#39;re encouraged to &#8220;FACE THE EVIL HEAD ON&#8221;. Not to do so is to remain ignorant.</p>
<p>Well, I don&#39;t agree with that. I also have no qualms about switching the channel when the dying babies of Africa (or any other country) are shown in all their &#39;glory&#39; -not because I don&#39;t care, but because it&#39;s too damn upsetting. And me being upset makes zero difference to the problem.  &#8230;but I know if it was my loved-one lying dead on the side of the road I&#39;d be outraged at the idea of it being shown on TV (much like it isn&#39;t done to show for instance the identifiable body of a US soldier in this manner).</p>
<p>OK, I&#39;m drifting off the point slightly there, but still, this is my objection to &#39;Serial Killer&#39; type movies and I found There Will Be Blood to be nothing other than the portrait of a vacuous man who shares much of these same qualities. </p>
<p>&#8220;Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!&#8221; &#8230;well part of the power such people gain (and strive for) is provided simply BY the looking. <br />I am as Time. I have no time for such petty individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: StanleyRumm</title>
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		<dc:creator>StanleyRumm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ll have to agree to disagree there Eric for the reasons I put earlier. I can&#039;t say I care what the point of the movie is/was. I don&#039;t like it. &lt;br&gt;...Beside the points I raised, I also didn&#039;t like it because basically it&#039;s a 3+hour two-act, uninteresting play. Very well made for all that. Cinematography, starkness and vibrant bleak sound throughout are amazing. I still didn&#039;t like the film overall.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve given it enough of my time. I realise this is an untrendy and almost unallowable viewpoint, but I&#039;ve given my reasons at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#39;ll have to agree to disagree there Eric for the reasons I put earlier. I can&#39;t say I care what the point of the movie is/was. I don&#39;t like it. <br />&#8230;Beside the points I raised, I also didn&#39;t like it because basically it&#39;s a 3+hour two-act, uninteresting play. Very well made for all that. Cinematography, starkness and vibrant bleak sound throughout are amazing. I still didn&#39;t like the film overall.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve given it enough of my time. I realise this is an untrendy and almost unallowable viewpoint, but I&#39;ve given my reasons at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But &#039;There Will Be Blood&#039; so much more than just a portrait of a vacuous man.  It&#039;s an intimate and compelling study of the real foundations of America -- not freedom and tolerance, but capitalism and religion.  To discount the film based on the unlikability of the main character is a tragic mistake --  because that&#039;s the whole point!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But &#39;There Will Be Blood&#39; so much more than just a portrait of a vacuous man.  It&#39;s an intimate and compelling study of the real foundations of America &#8212; not freedom and tolerance, but capitalism and religion.  To discount the film based on the unlikability of the main character is a tragic mistake &#8212;  because that&#39;s the whole point!</p>
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		<title>By: StanleyRumm</title>
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		<dc:creator>StanleyRumm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I missed this post until now... I agree that it&#039;s possible to watch a film without liking the protagonists. I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d toss Godfather II in such a boat (for me at least) because dash it all I think I like Michael despite all that goes on. It&#039;s a tribute to the quality of the film that it can portray a person committing such vile acts and still leave the viewer conflicted -or at least with much to think about re: how they relate to you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is true I&#039;ve never been as crazy for Raging Bull as the world and its lobster seem to be, but it&#039;s so long since I saw it (though I did try it 3+ times)  I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d hold the same view now -or even what those views were. I shoulda writ them down I know.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are exceptions to the &quot;irrelevant to dislike a movie because the main character is unlikeable&quot; though. For instance I&#039;ve decided a while back that I have absolutely ZERO interest in watching another &quot;Serial Killer&quot; type movie. I think these characters have been played-out and overexposed already in &quot;popular&quot; media. It&#039;s nigh-on hero worship at this stage. Whether the movie is &quot;worshipping&quot; the killer or not, it&#039;s invariably living on the &quot;strength&quot; and power of these acts (there are exceptions to this too -Zodiac and Memories of Murder being two notables).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s all too easy to show such downbeat, soul-sucking, nihilistic acts &amp; protagonists. It&#039;s virtually impossible to &quot;diss&quot; them without coming across as a squeamish schoolgirl. We&#039;re encouraged to &quot;FACE THE EVIL HEAD ON&quot;. Not to do so is to remain ignorant.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well, I don&#039;t agree with that. I also have no qualms about switching the channel when the dying babies of Africa (or any other country) are shown in all their &#039;glory&#039; -not because I don&#039;t care, but because it&#039;s too damn upsetting. And me being upset makes zero difference to the problem.  ...but I know if it was my loved-one lying dead on the side of the road I&#039;d be outraged at the idea of it being shown on TV (much like it isn&#039;t done to show for instance the identifiable body of a US soldier in this manner).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;OK, I&#039;m drifting off the point slightly there, but still, this is my objection to &#039;Serial Killer&#039; type movies and I found There Will Be Blood to be nothing other than the portrait of a vacuous man who shares much of these same qualities. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!&quot; ...well part of the power such people gain (and strive for) is provided simply BY the looking. &lt;br&gt;I am as Time. I have no time for such petty individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I missed this post until now&#8230; I agree that it&#39;s possible to watch a film without liking the protagonists. I&#39;m not sure I&#39;d toss Godfather II in such a boat (for me at least) because dash it all I think I like Michael despite all that goes on. It&#39;s a tribute to the quality of the film that it can portray a person committing such vile acts and still leave the viewer conflicted -or at least with much to think about re: how they relate to you.</p>
<p>It is true I&#39;ve never been as crazy for Raging Bull as the world and its lobster seem to be, but it&#39;s so long since I saw it (though I did try it 3+ times)  I&#39;m not sure I&#39;d hold the same view now -or even what those views were. I shoulda writ them down I know.</p>
<p>There are exceptions to the &#8220;irrelevant to dislike a movie because the main character is unlikeable&#8221; though. For instance I&#39;ve decided a while back that I have absolutely ZERO interest in watching another &#8220;Serial Killer&#8221; type movie. I think these characters have been played-out and overexposed already in &#8220;popular&#8221; media. It&#39;s nigh-on hero worship at this stage. Whether the movie is &#8220;worshipping&#8221; the killer or not, it&#39;s invariably living on the &#8220;strength&#8221; and power of these acts (there are exceptions to this too -Zodiac and Memories of Murder being two notables).</p>
<p>It&#39;s all too easy to show such downbeat, soul-sucking, nihilistic acts &#038; protagonists. It&#39;s virtually impossible to &#8220;diss&#8221; them without coming across as a squeamish schoolgirl. We&#39;re encouraged to &#8220;FACE THE EVIL HEAD ON&#8221;. Not to do so is to remain ignorant.</p>
<p>Well, I don&#39;t agree with that. I also have no qualms about switching the channel when the dying babies of Africa (or any other country) are shown in all their &#39;glory&#39; -not because I don&#39;t care, but because it&#39;s too damn upsetting. And me being upset makes zero difference to the problem.  &#8230;but I know if it was my loved-one lying dead on the side of the road I&#39;d be outraged at the idea of it being shown on TV (much like it isn&#39;t done to show for instance the identifiable body of a US soldier in this manner).</p>
<p>OK, I&#39;m drifting off the point slightly there, but still, this is my objection to &#39;Serial Killer&#39; type movies and I found There Will Be Blood to be nothing other than the portrait of a vacuous man who shares much of these same qualities. </p>
<p>&#8220;Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!&#8221; &#8230;well part of the power such people gain (and strive for) is provided simply BY the looking. <br />I am as Time. I have no time for such petty individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: Jett Loe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jett Loe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree King Pickle - i&#039;m working on my own &#039;overrated films of the decade&#039; and put ACROSS THE UNIVERSE on it - too bad since the director is such an accomplished visual stylist - anyhew, may not post it as am not sure i wanna be so negative this holiday season!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree King Pickle &#8211; i&#39;m working on my own &#39;overrated films of the decade&#39; and put ACROSS THE UNIVERSE on it &#8211; too bad since the director is such an accomplished visual stylist &#8211; anyhew, may not post it as am not sure i wanna be so negative this holiday season!</p>
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		<title>By: King Pickle</title>
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		<dc:creator>King Pickle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Across the Universe would be in my Top 10 Comedies of the Decade, since it&#039;s so bad that it&#039;s funny. If you really like The Beatles, you won&#039;t like this film.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Across the Universe would be in my Top 10 Comedies of the Decade, since it&#39;s so bad that it&#39;s funny. If you really like The Beatles, you won&#39;t like this film.</p>
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		<title>By: StanleyRumm</title>
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		<dc:creator>StanleyRumm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, Kingdom of Heaven DC arrived the other day and I thought I&#039;d mention that I watched it last night (in case anyone is interested..)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway, I&#039;d just like to thank those who recommended it to me, based on what I had said. I can&#039;t say I _liked_ it, but I&#039;m definitely glad I watched it. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I thought the crowd/ battle scenes were among the finest ever filmed -ie. it looked less like CGI than any other I can think of -although the digital blood took me right out of it every time it splashed across the screen. Also I thought a lot of the violence was gratuitous. I can see a need to portray the &quot;violence of the times&quot;, but the scenes I&#039;m thinking of were more to do with cinematic, stylised deaths than realism: eg. sharp end of a pickaxe through a helmet at the top of a head. The way it was shown was.. unnecessary. There were a few more like that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sets and costumes were all top-notch. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The beginning of the movie wasn&#039;t bad, but after what seemed like an age I found myself checking runtime, praying it wasn&#039;t nearly over because nothing much had happened and I didn&#039;t want to report back here with nothing but negatives. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thankfully (kind of) it was only half way through at that point.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this instance, I think most of the problems can&#039;t be levelled at Ridley Scott, but Orlando Bloom... or more accurately whoever cast him. Sure, he&#039;s not hard to look at, but he just looks and feels ridiculous in the role. &lt;br&gt;His character&#039;s overnight transformation from grieving blacksmith to son-of-a-knight, legendary fighter, sage, battle strategist, subtle lover and leader of men might have stood some chance if played by an actor who looks like he has _some_ potential to learn and grow, but, though I don&#039;t dismiss Mr. Bloom outright as a &#039;name actor&#039;  -he&#039;s no leader of men, nor epic-movie lead character.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In short: I can&#039;t say I loved it, but I had less problems with it than I did any other Ridley Scott film, so next time I&#039;m dissing him at least I&#039;ll have a few more positive things to say. :)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s also the 2nd-best &quot;epic&quot; film I&#039;ve seen in the past week. &lt;br&gt;(Red Cliff 1 and 2 being the better one -blu ray still going cheap on amazon.co.uk last I looked!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Kingdom of Heaven DC arrived the other day and I thought I&#39;d mention that I watched it last night (in case anyone is interested..)</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#39;d just like to thank those who recommended it to me, based on what I had said. I can&#39;t say I _liked_ it, but I&#39;m definitely glad I watched it. </p>
<p>I thought the crowd/ battle scenes were among the finest ever filmed -ie. it looked less like CGI than any other I can think of -although the digital blood took me right out of it every time it splashed across the screen. Also I thought a lot of the violence was gratuitous. I can see a need to portray the &#8220;violence of the times&#8221;, but the scenes I&#39;m thinking of were more to do with cinematic, stylised deaths than realism: eg. sharp end of a pickaxe through a helmet at the top of a head. The way it was shown was.. unnecessary. There were a few more like that.</p>
<p>Sets and costumes were all top-notch. </p>
<p>The beginning of the movie wasn&#39;t bad, but after what seemed like an age I found myself checking runtime, praying it wasn&#39;t nearly over because nothing much had happened and I didn&#39;t want to report back here with nothing but negatives. </p>
<p>Thankfully (kind of) it was only half way through at that point.</p>
<p>In this instance, I think most of the problems can&#39;t be levelled at Ridley Scott, but Orlando Bloom&#8230; or more accurately whoever cast him. Sure, he&#39;s not hard to look at, but he just looks and feels ridiculous in the role. <br />His character&#39;s overnight transformation from grieving blacksmith to son-of-a-knight, legendary fighter, sage, battle strategist, subtle lover and leader of men might have stood some chance if played by an actor who looks like he has _some_ potential to learn and grow, but, though I don&#39;t dismiss Mr. Bloom outright as a &#39;name actor&#39;  -he&#39;s no leader of men, nor epic-movie lead character.</p>
<p>In short: I can&#39;t say I loved it, but I had less problems with it than I did any other Ridley Scott film, so next time I&#39;m dissing him at least I&#39;ll have a few more positive things to say. :)</p>
<p>It&#39;s also the 2nd-best &#8220;epic&#8221; film I&#39;ve seen in the past week. <br />(Red Cliff 1 and 2 being the better one -blu ray still going cheap on amazon.co.uk last I looked!)</p>
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		<title>By: 81 Films of the Decade &#171; god is not elsewhere / some conversation about movies, art, politics and spirituality with gareth higgins</title>
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		<dc:creator>81 Films of the Decade &#171; god is not elsewhere / some conversation about movies, art, politics and spirituality with gareth higgins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 10:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to see and evaluate it for myself (in which case you may find it on one of my earlier lists of under- and over-rated films, and some that I think deserve a second look but which I didn&#8217;t feel should be on this list), [...]</description>
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