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savage by name

July 8th, 2008by Gareth Higgins · Comments

‘the savages’ has a joke for a title, in that it implies we haven’t progressed much as a race since the prehistoric times when throwing bones in the air was the height of creativity, or even more recently, when the european medieval homicide rate was 50% in some places (you had a one in two chance of being murdered by someone you knew in the days of the black plague, the early inquisition, and orlando bloom’s inter-faith dialogue). ‘the savages’ is about siblings trying to care for the elderly father who didn’t treat them well, and whom they don’t like very much. in that sense, it is about living and dying, and, in the context of contemporary medical culture – which can keep people alive far longer than ever before, leading to the inevitable fact that one day, someone is going to have pull the plug. savage indeed. or at least potentially so.

there are dozens of movies about ‘dying well’ – from ’stepmom’ to ‘terms of endearment’; and even though these have a reputation for over-egging the sentimentality, i don’t mind them that much. we all have to deal with the death of loved ones; this is hard enough without taking away the comfort that a ’soft’ movie might bring to the bereaved. though, of course, in these movies debra winger and susan sarandon don’t exactly die like we do in real life.

‘the savages’ wants to present something more honest; and in philip seymour hoffman and laura linney’s brother and sister pair, and most especially philip bosco’s father, portrays a painful little play. these are characters with whom you sympathise, rather than like. they make bad decisions. they are self-centered. they have a little bit of heart. it feels like real life.

no magic solutions present themselves; but facing the death of a parent does in some sense help the children grow up, if only a little. and the movie ends with a motif that some may find grating, but i think is one of the most honestly life-affirming images in the movies.

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  • Tom B
    Kiley, I can appreciate your opinion of Serenity - it certainly has a very different tone to the series, which got it spot on. Maybe Whedon was protecting his own, but he also said that he wanted to have a climax where all bets were off as to who would survive. I've also hear Alan Tudyk speak about further shows, despite his character being last seen with a telegraph pole through his chest.
  • I've been thinking of trying 'Brisco County' - I tried a few minutes of 'Jack of All Trades' but found it too broad for my tastes, (though I will give them credit for anticipating the pirate craze of a couple of years later), + it does have one of the greatest title sequences of all time.
  • i dunno...Serenity kinda borked it all up for me...i figure joss whedon did what he did to his characters so no one else could market them later, but i could be being very cynical...also, if you like cheese-filled tv adventure/comedy (and who doesn't?), try the very limited series 'The Adventures of Brisco County Jr'
  • Tom B
    Thanks for the info regarding The Wire Phil and Jett. Given that there is a finite number of episodes I may give it a go still, boxsets can usually be picked up cheap.

    Us Firefly fans will always live in hope of a resurrection - but maybe that time has already passed.
  • + Firefly is a lot of fun though slightly cheesy in parts. Part of the reason for the incredibly dedicated fan-base is the sense of nostalgia that permeates the show - it's as if we're watching things not in the future - but in some distant past - and there's a real sense of 'home' - of finding a place to be, to be accepted. I think Fox really screwed up here - they had a gold-mine franchise that would have made them tons of cash over decades, (as in Star Trek), but didn't see it.
  • Yep 'The Wire' is over = 5 seasons.

    Season 1: Brilliant
    Season 2: Not quite as good
    Season 3 and 4: The best thing that U.S. television has done, period.
    Season 5: A great wrap-up.
  • Unfortunately, Tom, the Wire is over with.

    The good news is, it's only 5 or 6 seasons long, so not too many shows you'd have to watch.

    But I'll confirm what Jett's been saying: it's one of the best shows ever.

    As far as 24, I watched season 2, liked it OK, then stopped after the first episode of season 3. However, I wished I had seen it more recently if only to see Jack Bauer sporting the most fake beard in television history during the season 4 or 5 finale.
  • Tom B
    Sorry, that should be 'quite' rather than 'quiet'!
  • Tom B
    You keep mentioning The Wire Jett. I really must try and catch it at some point. Hopefully it's only in it's first or second season. Nothing puts me off a show more than if I have 100 + episodes to catch up with!

    And speaking of highly recommened shows, I have to name check Firefly (only 14 episodes ever made before some idot exec at Fox canned it). It's creator, Joss Whedon talks about being quiet deliberate in his cinematic framing of shots. I think my list of praises for this show is as long as yours for The Wire, although possibly for completely different reasons!
  • I gave up on 24 after a few minutes into the first episode of the first season re: the skydiving seductress! -

    but anyhew I think you're right Tom. Shows like 'The Wire' are the closest thing to what U.S. cinema in the 70's was trying to do re: moral complexity.

    We're in this age now where it's all just 'moving pictures' = I watch Mad Men on my laptop, (and just realized that I haven't turned on the TV except to watch DVDs in months). And old TV shows like 'Star Trek TOS' are now being show during 'special event' nights in cinemas here now thanks to digital distribution and projection.
  • Tom B
    This is on my Lovefilm list on the strength of the cast alone - looking forward to it.

    Funny how we have some films that could easily be made for TV and then some shows that get pretty close to giving us the cinema experience. Regardless of what you think about it, 24 is looking more like Die Hard with every season.
  • You know I've always shied away from 'these' type of films, (small-art-house-family-drama), as they normally aren't 'cinematic' enough for me, (meaning they could exist in other media just fine = no reason to be a film rather than a book, etc.), but I'm putting this in my Netflix queue now!, (of course if it's dire I know who to blame Dr Prof Gareth Higgins...).
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